JB- We go from talking about this test to talking about Mother's Day. What a segue. You've done some interesting things for celebrity moms on the list. Tell us about that.
TP- I think what's interesting is that, what I like about celebrity moms and what have you is… I talked to Jennifer Garner the other day. She's one of them and she's fantastic. I like celebrity moms who say, "Look, I have it easier than the average mom in real life, to a certain extent. Which is what Rosie O'Donnell said back in the day -- I've got nannies, I've got money, I've got the opportunity to really, you know, surround myself with everything. A lot of times they won't hire a nanny. I like the fact that they can mix it up. And on the flip side of that, the other aspect you have to deal with the most is -- and all moms do not -- that when they walk out the door there's not a whole host of… a battalion of paparazzi jumping out of bushes. That's something a lot of moms don't have to deal with. The Jennifer Garners and the like are not out there much, in the sense of opening up an envelope and they take their privacy very seriously, and they take what they do very seriously. I've known Jennifer for a long time, and she's a romantic and she's great, solid, as we would say, chick -- you know, back in the day. So yeah, it's kind of fun.
JB- Let's talk about media and it's obsession with celebrities. We constantly see paparazzi chasing -- literally chasing -- down stars. It can be scary, even downright violent, as we've seen with Kanye (West) at an airport. I know you're not really paparazzi, what are your thoughts on the lengths these people are going?
TP- Yeah, there's a huge distinction. Paparazzi is the Italian word for gnat -- a fly that always bothers you. That's kind of what a paparazzi is. We went inside, about a year ago, and wanted to see exactly what happens with them -- who are they, what do they do? And there's an old-school paparazzi that kept their distance and would say, "Hi, Ms. Roberts… like, Julia Roberts. How are you today?" They wouldn't say the things like, you know… they wouldn't say outlandish things to get a reaction. And then there's the new school that started coming out and we've seen what happens. They kind of follow them around. And we saw what a day in the life of Britney Spears was like. We went up on Mulholland Drive, which is only two lanes -- one each way -- on top of a mountain. And we saw these seven SUVs, doors open, guys sitting outside, SUVs running, waiting for anything that looked like her or her SUV to come out of those gates. As soon as they came out, they jumped in their SUVs -- it was crazy, they were going like 60 or 70 miles per hour on the 35-mile-an-hour road around corners trying to catch her. There could have been a family of four coming the other way. It was insane. We followed them -- not at 70 miles an hour - and she went down the canyon, down into the flats of Beverly Hills to go to the dentist. The red lights these guys ran, the danger they put people in was just insane. We wanted to show that. We wanted to give people -- like, you just asked now, What's the difference between paparazzi and TV shows and is there a line that's firm and what's going on? Who buys what photos? We wanted to show what a day in the life was. All Britney was doing that day was going for a dental appointment. And when they got to Century City, which is where her dentist was, they went to an underground parking garage. When they got to the garage entrance there was security there and they stopped the guys in the SUVs. They got out of the SUVs, left them running with the doors open, ran passed the security guards and followed them four flights down to where Britney was getting out of the car to try get a picture of her -- just one picture. How insane is that? And, when we pulled into Century City there was a farmers' market going on, so they almost nailed people there. It's just insane.
JB- It would be almost like being on the set of a Nicolas Cage movie.
TP- It was. We're going along and showing what these people are going through with people following them and what have you. And it was like, "What else can happen?" And I was like, "There's a farmers' market. It was like a movie." Like, you're kidding me. I was nervous and I raced cars and I've raced motorcycles. I was nervous, like, this isn't going to end well. It hasn't on a couple of occasions. There is going to be something that's going to happen in the future and it's not going to end well for somebody.